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#1 2007-03-28 14:47:59

Spooky
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Registered: 2007-03-22
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Changing the Shuffle behaviour

I saw some similar (closed) topics about this already here on the forum, but I also wanted to add, that the shuffle behavior should be changed a little bit. For instance, in a playlist, no track should be played more than once until all tracks have been played. Also it would be nice if you can jump to the previous song played, not to the previous song in the playlist (when hitting 'previous').

Or if anyone disagrees... it could be optional smile

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#2 2007-03-29 01:19:07

Jooles
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Registered: 2007-02-08
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Re: Changing the Shuffle behaviour

The previous song played is already in DocTriv's list of feature requests and bugs (It's number I.5). As for the shuffle behaviour, I agree that that should be done. I also reckon we should have an album shuffle option (So it plays entire albums but picks random albums to play)


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#3 2007-03-29 05:37:20

DocTriv
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Re: Changing the Shuffle behaviour

Just for clarification:

You are talking about Random playback which is sub-optimal (but AFAIK also in e.g. Winamp not the best).
The real Shuffle (in the "Audio" menu) just mixes the actual playlist, so maybe use this until Random is, eh, more random :-).

Edit: I've updated my list.

Last edited by DocTriv (2007-03-29 06:00:00)


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#4 2007-03-29 08:27:24

Kyle76
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Registered: 2007-02-25
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Re: Changing the Shuffle behaviour

DocTriv wrote:

The real Shuffle (in the "Audio" menu) just mixes the actual playlist, so maybe use this until Random is, eh, more random :-).

Thanks for the tip!  I hadn't discovered this function.  It accomplishes two things -- you can go backward to previously played songs, and you don't hear a repeat until all songs have played.

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#5 2007-03-30 04:36:16

Spooky
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Re: Changing the Shuffle behaviour

DocTriv wrote:

Just for clarification:

You are talking about Random playback which is sub-optimal (but AFAIK also in e.g. Winamp not the best).
The real Shuffle (in the "Audio" menu) just mixes the actual playlist, so maybe use this until Random is, eh, more random :-).

Edit: I've updated my list.

Indeed smile. Didn't try the shuffle option yet. Well this is good enough for now wink

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#6 2007-04-15 00:21:51

schnibt
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Registered: 2007-03-31
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Re: Changing the Shuffle behaviour

Spooky wrote:

I saw some similar (closed) topics about this already here on the forum, but I also wanted to add, that the shuffle behavior should be changed a little bit. For instance, in a playlist, no track should be played more than once until all tracks have been played. Also it would be nice if you can jump to the previous song played, not to the previous song in the playlist (when hitting 'previous').

Or if anyone disagrees... it could be optional smile

I was suffering the same problems (and also didn't realise that random and shuffle were two very different functions), but I came up with a "Shuffle" dynamic playlist if you're interested:

datetime(lastplayed) < datetime('now', '-2 days') AND notes NOT LIKE '%christmas%' ORDER BY random()

This dynamic playlist will produce a randomly ordered list of tracks you haven't heard in the past 2 days (which can be changed depending upon preference). I'm pretty new at this, so I'm looking at other ways to "enhance" my shuffle experience (hence the addition of my no-Christmas-songs clause - no pun intended - because I have a buggerload of Christmas songs that keep popping up under regular shuffle). All seems to be working nicely. This way I don't get any songs I've heard very recently and the songs are far better shuffled than with "random" (and not to mention I don't have to continuously skip Christmas songs).

Also, since this produces a playlist that's shuffled (and not in "random" mode) you can easily skip back to previously played tracks in the correct order.

Last edited by schnibt (2007-04-15 00:27:39)

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