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#1 2005-03-12 19:29:12

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Linux version

Any plans for a Linux version?

It would be great to see and you possibly could get a number of developers helping you out.

 

#2 2005-03-12 19:38:40

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Re: Linux version

LInux support is 99% working, but theres ONE bug keeping it back. See this thread:

http://musik.sourceforge.net/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=79

A gui is already designed, here is a screenshot of it working before unicode support was introduced:

http://www.musikcube.com/casey/musikBox/musikBox012.png

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#3 2005-03-14 03:04:29

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Re: Linux version

COOL! Can't wait!

 

#4 2005-03-14 10:09:19

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Re: Linux version

Thare is a linux version of the REAL MUSIK:
http://musik.berlios.de/

 

#5 2005-03-14 11:14:31

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Re: Linux version

Excuse me, but what you are calling the REAL MUSIK is a project I worked on three years ago. musikCore is much more powerful than wxMusik. Please think before you post.

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#6 2005-03-14 19:13:43

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Re: Linux version

theres a really similar program for linux called rhythem box.  ubuntu uses it.  i really liked that program and was trying to find a windows version of rhythem box, and this program seems the closest to it.

 

#7 2005-03-18 04:02:05

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Re: Linux version

If you use Linux you should go for amaroK!
btw: guys: amaroK has plenty og sweet feautres that would be great on musikCube.
http://amarok.kde.org/

 

#8 2005-03-18 14:06:12

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Re: Linux version

bhahahaha this is hilarious! musikCube is by far the best anything to do with music program around.


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#9 2005-03-21 03:17:14

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Re: Linux version

bhahahaha this is hilarious! musikCube is by far the best anything to do with music program around.

Now, that is just annoying BS. You really think that player, which is still in beta stage, is 'by far the best' player around?

For starters, how about those media keyboards? They are workin yet? I don't see my Logitech working so I still use Winamp. I can't see any global AMIP+Winamp style 'Jump to file' feature... How about net radio listings? Can't see any in cube.. Where's the customizable global hotkeys?

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No offence ment and I hope none taken, avatar.


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#10 2005-03-21 05:31:18

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Re: Linux version

well... musikCube isn't just another dime a dozen media player is it? musikCube is also making its own advancements. Media keyboard... cough mini player cough. I'm basing my statement off of what I know musikCube will become and I have faith avatar will take it there. Net radio listings... http://dekstop.de/ilike/show/#streams there ya go


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#11 2005-04-03 09:31:20

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Re: Linux version

With as much as I love and use Linux and Ubuntu, rhythmbox has not yet met my needs as a music player. I have been using it off and on for years now and it still does not support simple items such as tagging.

I have a huge music collection (15k) songs that I have been collecting over the years, and rhythmbox's XML database for storing music info is slow to parse and takes up lots of memory. rhythmbox also crashes when importing my collection, or just does random weirdness. There have been no releases of rhythmbox in several months.

I have been waiting for a music player on Linux (gnome) for years. I prefer ogg format but also have tons of mp3s. I think it will be nice when musikcube is released for Linux, because it supports my formats, and because so far it seams to handle my collection.

User Interface is poor quality compared to what I'm used to. The goal behind the gnome project is to keep the interface simple and set sensible configuration defaults. I realize that this is not a gnome, nor is it even a Linux application, but that doesn't mean that it can't use the same ideals to user interface design.

Here is a screen shot of rhythmbox and you can see how clear all of the buttons and options are. They hide most of the options that most users won't touch. Options like the EQ or Cross fader are options can be hidden away in a menu and so the interface would be cleaner.

http://www.rhythmbox.org/screenshots/Screenshot-Rhythmbox-virage-mist.png

MusikCube Pro's
* database back end makes searches fast with my huge collection
* database export, allows me to use my collection on many computers
* ogg support, the only reason I consider a music player
* stable
* open source (although I think GPL would be a better license)

MusikCube Con's
* interface could be improved for useability
* needs better icons
* fmod isn't opensource
* windows only (at the moment)
* file tagging is slow

Keep up the good work guys, so far it is the best player for my needs. I only wish I could use it on Linux instead of Windows ><

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#12 2005-04-03 10:19:14

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Re: Linux version

musikCube uses fmod? and I thought the interface was pretty clean to begin with and the same goes for the icons.


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#13 2005-04-03 10:37:37

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Re: Linux version

Hey that screen shot above really has a nice layout...


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#14 2005-04-03 10:41:36

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Yes indeed. Now what I think musikCube needs is a button/right-click-option to automatically clear the Now Playing List. wink


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#15 2005-04-03 12:37:40

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Re: Linux version

Urban~ I assumed that it used fmod because the website had a link to thier page, and I believe the wxmusik player uses fmod. I could be wrong. My comments earlier are about usability in the idea that less is more. A cluttered interface confuses people who are not computer literate. my main focus of the problem with the icons is for the 4 buttons in the lower right corner. at a glance the icons are meaningless. because of my large collection of music, 90% of the time I have all artists and albums in queue and select the random option. in the above screenshot I posted earler it is very clear where those options are, and when they are selected.

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#16 2005-04-03 21:54:39

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Re: Linux version

I have no qualms about the buttons in the bottom left corner of mC because if you mouseover them it flashes the function of the buttons.  If computer illiterate people don't know what they're doing then they shouldn't be pressing buttons now, should they?  Also, no offense to your taste in gui, but I've used Gnome extensively and have to say that it makes me want to vomit  lol

Problems with Gnome (or more specifically, gtk):
* Square icons and scroll bars that are really ugly (If you're gonna have buttons at all, why not make 'em pretty?)
* All programs look absolutely the same
* It's a programmer's easy way (I say that lightly since program writing using any gui library is still difficult) out of making their own, unique interface (that might be just as clean and efficient as gtk, but is a heck of a lot prettier in many cases)

I don't want it to sound like I'm trying to disrespect gnome and gtk (because they really are very good gui libs), but they look even worse than Microsoft software, in my opinion.  If a person really wanted a lightweight interface, they'd make an ncurses implementation (since ncurses blows everything else out of the water).  In fact, I think that would be an extremely fun project to learn ncurses with and would be even cooler if it could be cygwin compilable smile

Casey, your musikBox is looking excellent right now and I assume you're using qt/kde since the gui looks very much like a kde theme.  Once you get whatever bug's holding you back smoothed out, this could quickly replace noatun, xmms, and AmaroK as the player of choice for linux!


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#17 2005-04-03 22:16:29

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Re: Linux version

Its actually gnome and GTK. I think KDE, even with good themes such as Plastik, look absolutely hideous. To each his own.


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#18 2005-04-04 05:55:25

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Re: Linux version

musikBox sure looks better than a lot of gtk/gnome programs then and part of the reason might be that your theme looks better than most gnome themes I've seen.  As far as windowmanagers go, though, I'm more of a *box fan myself.


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#19 2005-04-04 12:22:38

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Re: Linux version

would be sweet if this gtk version of musikcube could be run on windows. I have a few other gtk programs I run on windows.

So what is the status of this port anyway? is there a preview or cvs repository somewhere I can use to check it out?

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#20 2005-04-06 06:01:30

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mudfly, the whole point of musikCube is so that you don't HAVE to run it with GTK  lol

GTK on windows is even *worse* than it is on linux and I guarantee it'd be more desirable to just run musikCube.  However, if an ncurses gui were developed, that would be really cool to run on windows wink


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#21 2005-04-08 09:24:24

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Re: Linux version

I like GTK applications and think it is badass to be able to cross multiple platforms with one codebase. I would use a GTK application over a MFC app anyday.

Musikcube functions well, and meets my needs, but its kind of ugly. Please don't take offence to this. I use this program to listen to music, not to look at.

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#22 2005-04-09 21:52:31

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Re: Linux version

If you're using the default color scheme, I'd have to agree with you that it does look kind of ugly, but mine looks pretty sweet smile

This brings me to a plugin/feature request.  Would it be possible to create a plugin (or preference) to change the musikCube color scheme and possibly browse from preconfigured color schemes?


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#23 2005-04-10 09:17:33

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Re: Linux version

musikBox does run in Win32 just fine, like i said, we just need to get the string bug worked out.


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#24 2005-04-10 09:22:59

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GTK on windows is even *worse* than it is on linux and I guarantee it'd be more desirable to just run musikCube. However, if an ncurses gui were developed, that would be really cool to run on windows

GTk doesnt look bad at all on windows if you use the WIMP theme. Then it looks liek a native app.


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#25 2005-04-11 03:33:56

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Now you see, this is the negative side of GTK for me! Why should you have to individually theme something? Surely the whole idea of integration is that what ever you are using, it should blend in with your window manager and current look and feel - for me the gtk-qt project just makes so much sense in that respect. But the same goes for windows. If i was using a GTK app in windows it should look and feel like windows. If i wanted it to feel like gnome, i'd be running that.

This is something I've been reading up on lately, and must say that it's the most confusing topic ever!! I don't get why you don't just say "draw a button" and then let the os draw the button to your specifications. The miriad of different options is crazy!!! Must say swing seems the best to me really!

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